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Post by F3W on Feb 12, 2009 12:51:26 GMT -5
Hi, after my hard work on the Aspire project, it will be going on to a new home...my brother needs it more then I do. Now for my NEW RT design...I have the need for speed as we all have at one point or another...I have on a stand waiting for a project a '95 5.0 full roller block...the power out put is estimated at 350HP...it is loaded with many Ford Racing components which include a Ford Racing EFI harness, SS Hot Jet coated headers, 30# injectors and some FR accessories. If I go with the RWD layout I'll have the problem of transferring the power to a single mounted rear wheel...one option would be to use a third member from a import sports car as most have the LSD traction system and are pretty strong...I will want to use a large rear tire for good traction...something in the 10" category...with this much HP, I want good power traction...I also want it to be mounted on one side as changing a flat tire is important to be simple, no double sided swing arm with a through bolt...torsional stiffness will be key here for strength and function. If anyone here has a better ideal, I would love to hear your input. Thanks Dave  |
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Post by 3verse on Feb 12, 2009 18:40:53 GMT -5
I'm a fan of any and all ideas, but I think you might be better off selling the motor/parts from the stang and using the money to buy a donar sportsbike for an RT.
But I certainly don't want to be a naysayer -- if you think you can make this happen I'd love to see the results!
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Post by F3W on Feb 12, 2009 21:28:34 GMT -5
3verse...I wish it was that easy...you see, before I lost my job and moved here to Texas I was building this motor for a '71 Ranchero...since I have over 5K invested in new parts still in the boxes, no one will give me what I have invested and since I had to already give up my Ranchero, I am not going to give my 5.0 too. I am trying to figure out the rear end setup as well as the approach I'm going to take to make this work...I am very good at fabricating things but don't want it to look hoky...I am thinking along the lines of part Lotus Super 7 and part T-Rex...I have seen another V8 trike that resembled a hot rod roadster but the guy built it to sit on like a normal bike...I want mine to have the lowest seating as possible. I am going to build the chassis similar to to 7's but with a single rear wheel...the frame will be of my own design of course, just want to build it as light as possible...my only concern is the placement of the engines weight over the front suspension...I will need to be sure not to have too much too forward, otherwise it will be too tail light which will cause easy tail spins...another factor is the over all length...I don't want the trike to end up in the 12'+ range...I would like to keep it under 10' in length...I think the only way to accomplish this is to widen the track which will allow me to shorten the cabin so I can move the rear suspension closer together...if I can move my leg room forward at least 2', it will allow more space in between the driver and passenger...this space can be used to house the fuel tank, one that can hug the tranny and rear housing which will help with space savings...I can add the filler neck at the top rear...this should give me over a 20 gallon capacity and a low center of gravity...actually, I am just now designing this thing as I come up with new ideals  ...I have also found a good candidate for the rear pumpkin...in the late 90's Ford had a IRS in the T-bird...this would make thinks easy to fab up as it has some tall gears(2.73:1) I believe and had a CV joint flange which will make things easy to adapt...maybe I can get jim99 to machine me an adapter that I can bolt onto the flange and then bolt on a sprocket over that...the mono trailing arm will be a piece of cake to make and I can use a rear disk hub from a FWD donor car, something sporty with big brakes...a hub from a Cadillac would work great as they have massive brakes and there are plenty at the bone yard here...I think they measured 12" and had 2 piston calipers...these were on a 2005 model. So for now, these are some of my ideals...I'm feeling more confident about this build now that I'm starting to see this V8 RT come together in my head...until next time... Dave |
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Post by danwyke on Feb 13, 2009 13:02:30 GMT -5
I'm not trying to rain on your parade but it sounds like you are going to have some serious traction issues. You may want to try and talk to the guy that built the other V8 trike and see how driveable it is. Could be fun to build and take to shows but if it's only good for tire smoke displays it could get old (or dangerous) quick.
That being said, if it's what you want, build it and enjoy it.
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Post by F3W on Feb 13, 2009 13:04:58 GMT -5
I did a rough drawing in paint, a basic design of how it could work...I will still need to do a side view of the chassis...I wanted to get an ideal on the layout.  Dave |
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Post by F3W on Feb 13, 2009 13:21:39 GMT -5
I'm not trying to rain on your parade but it sounds like you are going to have some serious traction issues. You may want to try and talk to the guy that built the other V8 trike and see how driveable it is. Could be fun to build and take to shows but if it's only good for tire smoke displays it could get old (or dangerous) quick. That being said, if it's what you want, build it and enjoy it. I do understand what you are saying...it is also clear to me that I may have a traction problem...I had just posted a rough design of how I can redistribute the weight so that the rear end is not too light...by moving the engine and trans behind the front suspension, I believe that I will achieve a better balanced RT with an equal amount of load on all wheels. Dave |
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Post by srx660 on Feb 14, 2009 5:41:02 GMT -5
I think a longer version similar to this trike would be fun, easily fit a V-8, and by sitting on the transmission the weight would be very balanced. Perhaps even extending the front and moving the front wheels forward would balance it even more.  Just my thoughts. I would get rid of the mailbox rear fender and maybe have a arching body style to blend front and rear together. SRX660 |
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Post by F3W on Feb 14, 2009 11:15:51 GMT -5
That's a nice concept srx660, however my goal is to get as much weight as possible as low as I can...that includes my seating position...the front of my design almost reminds me of a formula 1 car...maybe I can extend it just a little so that I can tapper the rear a little...I will do a model version of this design using a model engine and trans so I can get a 3D version to see the actual dimensions. Dave |
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Post by F3W on Feb 25, 2009 10:41:22 GMT -5
After doing my research, I've decided on using the front end from a Fiero...it has available brake upgrades and is all self contained like the VW front end is...I am also attracted by the spring perch which would make mounting my air bags simple. Thought I would post SOMETHING since it's been quiet around here. Dave |
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...I have also found a good candidate for the rear pumpkin...in the late 90's Ford had a IRS in the T-bird...this would make thinks easy to fab up as it has some tall gears(2.73:1) I believe and had a CV joint flange which will make things easy to adapt...maybe I can get jim99 to machine me an adapter that I can bolt onto the flange and then bolt on a sprocket over that...the mono trailing arm will be a piece of cake to make and I can use a rear disk hub from a FWD donor car, something sporty with big brakes...a hub from a Cadillac would work great as they have massive brakes and there are plenty at the bone yard here...I think they measured 12" and had 2 piston calipers...these were on a 2005 model.
