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Post by dain on Feb 5, 2016 9:39:31 GMT -5
www.TanomMotors.comSaw these guys on Jay Leno and am hard pressed to understand what they are doing differently or better than the guys who build the original T-Rex. It isn't cheaper, it isn't faster, and it appears to have stolen some body lines from an Elio. So many of these start up trike companies are putting out a product that's north of $50k that is far less useable than a bone stock off the shelf brand new corvette for the same money. Polaris was smart with the slingshot to keep the unit cost around $20k, and those are a blast even with the pretty timid car engine (same hp as a hayabusa.. more torque!). I guess the point of my rant is a good business model for a trike is to not alienate 99% of people who can't afford a $50k motorcycle! Thoughts?
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Post by dain on Feb 5, 2016 9:44:57 GMT -5
Not only that - I think it is irresponsible of a company to create a powerful vehicle and make it a trike only so as to skate the government regulations that would make it safe - exactly what they've admitted to.
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Post by captainamerica on Feb 5, 2016 20:32:14 GMT -5
There are something like 60 companies knocking off the T-rex, another one doesnt suprise me, the height of the roof cracks me up though. Why they would need a foot of head space is beyond me, passengers should be more inclined, the body work is decent for what it is, but the size of the vehicle with respect to the tire size is off you can see in the page with all 6 trikes, the red one in the top right looks like it has training wheels because of how tall the roof is. Another knock who thinks they can make a buck, people should go more with what scorpion down in florida is doing and at least design something different.
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Post by srx660 on Feb 6, 2016 12:02:09 GMT -5
In this picture you can see why the proportions of the roof line are off sized. The trikes sits so low that you have to climb up and out at the same time to get out of the vehicle. Having to duck to get out of the vehicle every day would stop me from buying it. Especially at their price. Notice that there's only about 4 inches of room above the mans head to get out of it. Wonder if they have handholds on the framework to help pull yourself out. SRX660
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Post by dain on Feb 6, 2016 12:32:26 GMT -5
That is exactly what they r doing is trying to make a buck.
I believe everyone is still missing the boat on these vehicles, even scorpion, aside from Polaris... if a person can make it affordable the market opens up infinitely.
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Post by DaveJ98092 on Feb 6, 2016 13:57:00 GMT -5
When you have a small shop building tube frames as a kit that is sold "AS IS", you MUST have the buyer sign a waver of liability and it must be worded that the frame is only a starting point, it has NOT been crash tested and the end builder is totally responsible to make sure that it meets their local laws and regulations. If they do not sign then "NO SALE"! You still will need to have a business/manufactures license and a liability insurance policy to cover it.
In a $50,000 turn key trike you had better have:
1. A good self interest liability insurance policy. $$$$$
2. Have done some crash testing. $$$$$
3. A certified FRAME welder and use at least spec DOM tubing. $$$$
4. A well supplied sourced of mechanical parts so no waiting for parts and that every trike is the same. $$
5. Your states VIN assignment for how many trikes you will produce each year. $$
6. A business/manufacturing license. $
7. And so on and on.....
This is the whole reason Eleo is still NOT in production at the $6800 range. I bet they come out in the $20K range too.
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Post by dain on Feb 7, 2016 10:14:15 GMT -5
Dave I am with you on the price of the Elio - very unlikely they will cost anywhere near the advertised $6800.
I had a discussion with the Iowa DOT agent when he came to give me a VIN - In Iowa things like crash testing and emissions are not looked at, basically he determines if a vehicle is safe enough for road use by meeting a few minimum requirements.
All of the legal aspects, I absolutely would obtain the proper insurance should I decide to build a few more for purposes of selling. One thing he mentioned is he would allow me to build up to 10/mo without any kind of manufacturers license. Unfortunately the American dream to most is to not get rich by working hard but to get rich by suing someone who has...
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Post by mtntech on Feb 13, 2016 12:02:18 GMT -5
The Tanom Invader is a blatant copy of the Trex concept. Different bodywork, that IMO, is not very attractive. As far as skirting safety issues, well that is a whole different conversation. In a world where vehicles are starting to brake and steer by "themselves", there are alot of people who yearn for simpler times where driving was more "fun" . Life is sometimes being spoiled by the "safety police".
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Post by Liteway on Feb 13, 2016 14:04:02 GMT -5
The Tanom Invader is a blatant copy of the Trex concept. Different bodywork, that IMO, is not very attractive. As far as skirting safety issues, well that is a whole different conversation. In a world where vehicles are starting to brake and steer by "themselves", there are alot of people who yearn for simpler times where driving was more "fun" . Life is sometimes being spoiled by the "safety police". yep. 90 percent of the time, and especially when getting family and friends from point a to b, I like quiet ,comfort, safety. Hard to beat a modern production car for that. The other 10 percent of the time I just want cheap thrills best delivered by something loud, raw and visceral with the performance capabilities to justify it. T-Rex and clones are for the latter. Modern automobiles would likely be much more dangerous without government regs and I appreciate what has been accomplished to keep me and mine safer in our travels, buts its also good that stuff like the T-rex can still be had. If they have to skirt rules with 3 wheels to deliver on the thrills part, so be it. I would not buy a T-rex, because it is a ridiculous price for a toy, but have no problem with those that would either buy or sell them. Long live freedom. (Hope that is not too political Dave).
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Post by noahkatz on Feb 16, 2016 2:59:09 GMT -5
2. Have done some crash testing. $$$$$I thought three wheelers were classified as motorcycles and motorcycles aren't required to be crash tested.
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Post by DaveJ98092 on Feb 16, 2016 12:49:35 GMT -5
2. Have done some crash testing. $$$$$I thought three wheelers were classified as motorcycles and motorcycles aren't required to be crash tested. True in some cases. But Eleo has had to make like 10 trikes just to be crashed. I guess that for each case it would need research for your area of manufacturing. A $10-15K kit made at home is regulated much differently than a $50K+ "turnkey" in most areas, I assume. But we all know what happens when you assume. I have said it in many other threads, Research your local regulations and laws BEFORE you start.
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