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Post by no1uno on Jun 19, 2014 22:51:10 GMT -5
Now that I have caught you all up to where I am at with my project, time to start showing you some ideas I had for the reverse trike on a spifire frame.... Here are a few rolling around in my head or another idea or a few more
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Post by no1uno on Jun 19, 2014 22:56:56 GMT -5
A few more ideas to incorporate in to this design I love the front end of this trike The one below is a nice idea using a two seater design The one below I thought about stretching it since my motor is in the front
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Post by no1uno on Jun 19, 2014 23:05:11 GMT -5
This is the website where my whole idea started from www.carcentric.com/TriumphTrike.htmand how they wanted to build it "Lock" the Spitfire's differential (its internals will be welded together so that both output flanges will always turn in unison). The left stub axle's flange will have a chain sprocket bolted on. A left rear trailing arm and disc brake from a Porsche 914 will be used unmodified, but a custom hub will need to be fabricated to mount the third wheel and driven sprocket I am just using one of these instead!!! but a little smaller since this would be too big Anyway gentlemen, now you get the idea of what I am doing and yes it does take some time and money and time in the garage. Stay with me on this project and help me see it to the end. this weekend is plasma cutting the old body, since I want to keep some strenght of the metal frame and then fiberglass over foam to create the new style of body for this monster. Wish me luck as now I get into the last final three stages, the rear wheel mounting, the new foam body style and the wiring thanks for looking, Robert
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Post by 1983JZR3W on Jun 20, 2014 11:22:51 GMT -5
All red X's except for the third page.
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Post by no1uno on Jun 20, 2014 19:52:53 GMT -5
You should be able to see all of them now I went back and re edited them and they all show up for me... so Let's hope guys, it was a lot of work so far!!!
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Post by no1uno on Jun 21, 2014 19:02:28 GMT -5
Ok here is where we are at now, I tried to use the Plasma cutter but the compressor would not handle the 80 PSI the whole time so back it goes to my friends work and I will take the body there to cut it up to what I need, but I will give you some teaser shots of the rear end and what is coming next.
This shot is showing the whole frame and the red lift in the middle, this is where I am test fitting the rear end of the Suzuki GSXR 17 inch rim and swing arm assembly.
Look good so far....
Looking down on the rear end now... I will be making up the shock system since I am not using the stock system, there is going to be too much weight for a single shock.
Money shot...
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Post by no1uno on Jun 21, 2014 19:10:36 GMT -5
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Post by no1uno on Jun 21, 2014 19:13:22 GMT -5
Trying to get it all in a shot
This should give you an idea
More to come and thanks for looking, you can click on each photo and it will get larger, plus if anyone needs the images I have them in high resolution if you need them.
Thanks for looking Robert
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Post by no1uno on Jun 22, 2014 9:19:49 GMT -5
I noticed I was posting in the wrong area, I asked the admins to move me here, more updates coming
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Post by captainamerica on Jun 23, 2014 7:16:34 GMT -5
Looks like your a man of good shop skill here and not shy of buying the necessary tools, I think I'm only mildly sad that the donor car actually looked like it was in pretty good shape. I'm not sure where you are in southwest VA but if you want to try driving a reverse trike, if you haven't already, come on down to NC for a day and I can let you take mine for a quick spin in mine once its done being painted and rebuilt. Its definitely an excitement/morale booster for finishing your own, and its nice to know what it feels like. I live about 30 miles north of Charlotte currently.
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Post by no1uno on Jun 23, 2014 15:04:57 GMT -5
From my house to Winston is about 45 minutes, and to North of Charlotte is hour and 20 not too bad. Thank you for the kind words I try to keep things clean and my wife say I am just to picky!!!! LOL.
here is my email rverhalen@centurylink.net and I can swap numbers with you and I can ask some questions about yours... I have been reading about yours for the last few nights. Nice to know I am not alone anymore.
The car was in good shape but half way through I was bored with it, and was looking on doing something different, then I came across the website that took a Spitfire and did the design to make a three wheeler and I was hooked.
So all in all the whole frame, engine and everything else is in good shape and a joy to work on... I just wanted something different to drive, something that stood out, something that you do not have to fabricate too much and make it your own... why engineer someting all over again when you can take known technology and just step it up.
Look forward to speaking with you,
Thank you, Robert
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Post by stretchmobileski on Jun 23, 2014 16:44:53 GMT -5
Thanks for taking the time to fix the pictures. I understand better what you are doing.
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Post by no1uno on Jun 29, 2014 18:03:22 GMT -5
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Post by no1uno on Jun 29, 2014 18:09:56 GMT -5
Some pictures to show you where I am at with the build so far.
First picture is cutting up the body to the shape I need to get it just right
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Then a rear shot showing the left side cut off
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Now you can see half of the rear gone and the two towers on each side is where the gas tank goes and the body is getting narrowed to fit a V shape, Using the steel floor pan will add strength and be a great base for the foam and fiberglass new body.
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Post by captainamerica on Jun 30, 2014 17:35:21 GMT -5
These are the points I used for the rear end, they have worked well so far. I had to shorten the two links from the swing arm to the bell crank by half an inch to make it work at the right ride height. Andrew
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Post by no1uno on Jul 14, 2014 18:15:13 GMT -5
Latest updates with no pictures
* Installed the new alternator on the 3 wheeler * Ordered the new parts for the rear end so I can get some thing mounted and get the rolling chassis going * Upgraded the Dizzy on the engine to full electronic today to reduce the wires on the engine area * Updated the coil and made the custom mount for it (You will see in more details soon) * Worked on little projects on her to get up to speed again and make sure I do not forget anything * Been working on the wiring diagram for the simple test bed starting of the motor to keep her running just right until finished * Hunted down and ordered every part that was needed for the rear from a stock 06 GSXR after talking to Captain America since he and I are running the same rear on our 3 wheelers. Nice
More to come soon, just a quick update to keep everyone aware that I am still here and working on the project still with full force
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Gentlemen, While looking around the web I found this site, it is some guy that built this car out of Foam and good read. He built a Cord in his garage out of foam and fiberglass, nice read
www.home-built-cord.com/index.html
More to come soon, Robert
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Post by no1uno on Jul 24, 2014 17:49:36 GMT -5
Well here are a few more updates, * Just bought the rear wheel which is a 205/40/17 for the GSXR rear.... Can't put it on yet my favorite MC is away and will be back next week, darn * Got in all of the parts for the rear swing arm * Having the machine shop spin out my new swing arm pivot points, thanks to Captain America! (Thank you sir) * Working on the rear swing arm design now and having fun doing it... trial and error... Here is the picture of the new tire, it is low profile... Love the tire and not to expensive either Attachment DeletedI found this on the web, what a different design for a three wheeler I love the rear end of this RT since it uses modern technology for the lighting system. Attachment Deleted
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Post by DaveJ98092 on Jul 24, 2014 23:31:45 GMT -5
Robert, putting a Car tire on a motorcycle rim is a job all in itself. Lots of cuss words have been spent over the years. A cars 17" tire has a smaller inside diameter than a 17" motorcycle so the car tire fits REAL TIGHT. But it also will NOT blow off as easy. I am running a 185/60 HR 14 on the back of my 08 Suzuki Burgman scooter in place of the 160/60 HR 14 factory motorcycle tire. It is called DARKSIDING and over 10,000 motorcyclists have done it. I am at over 100,000 miles on 3 scooters with a car tire on the rear only. They corner just as good and have 300% better wet grip. When mounting that tire, make sure the tire is very warm. Use some real good tire lube on the valley and bead areas of the rim. Liquid soap mixed with water will work somewhat but the water has no where to evaporate to so it can cause corrosion. I use $8 a gallon NAPA RuGlyde as it is very slippery stuff. NAPA part number BK 7651338. Get the 55 gallon drum for $367 Or $15 a gallon Bead-Eze tire lube and leak detector NAPA part number SPC 35847. These tire lubes can be used as any rubber or plastic lubricant too. Like wires thru a grommet, Shock bushings.....
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Post by no1uno on Jul 25, 2014 21:07:54 GMT -5
Thank you sir, that is some real good information that I need at this time. It is going to cost me $140.00 dollars to have the pivot spacers made but I find it money well spent when it comes to holding the rear swing arm assembly on. I will be working on the design for the mounting points over the next few weeks and then buying the parts I need to do some welding to get it just right.
I still have to buy the front sprocket (which I forget to purchase) and some tubing to do the cutting and welding on... this is the most exciting part since right after I am done with this step she should be sitting on all three points!!! then comes the body work and wiring... I am starting to get excited.
Thank you Dave for the information above, I better get some Bead-Eze to start the process...
Thanks for looking Robert
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Post by henrye718 on Jul 27, 2014 6:19:47 GMT -5
This is the website where my whole idea started from www.carcentric.com/TriumphTrike.htmand how they wanted to build it "Lock" the Spitfire's differential (its internals will be welded together so that both output flanges will always turn in unison). The left stub axle's flange will have a chain sprocket bolted on. A left rear trailing arm and disc brake from a Porsche 914 will be used unmodified, but a custom hub will need to be fabricated to mount the third wheel and driven sprocket I am just using one of these instead!!! but a little smaller since this would be too big Anyway gentlemen, now you get the idea of what I am doing and yes it does take some time and money and time in the garage. Stay with me on this project and help me see it to the end. this weekend is plasma cutting the old body, since I want to keep some strenght of the metal frame and then fiberglass over foam to create the new style of body for this monster. Wish me luck as now I get into the last final three stages, the rear wheel mounting, the new foam body style and the wiring thanks for looking, Robert Hi there I didnt have time today to read your thread complety.... But I did notice you mentioned locking the front end axles together. If I am reading that right it creates whats sometimes called a detroit locker I know any vehicle that the front axle is locked it becomes very difficult to steer. Like the 73 jeep I had with lockable hubs and also quite a few ATVs I have owned not to mention you will have one wheel turning faster than the other in turns that will create tire scrub on pavement. If I understand what you are saying correctly locking the front axle is a bad bad idea. It needs to be posi.
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