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Post by fatherchuck53 on Mar 30, 2014 14:47:02 GMT -5
Yamaha engine, basic frame, front suspension homemade, steering Datsun, front brakes triumph spitfire, seats off road cart, master cylinder generic, shocks front Honda rear Chinese? Basic receipts and pictures of the fab. It surprised me how quick and easy it was. I've done things like this before over the years in Minnesota. Missouri and they had a lot more hoops to jump though.
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Post by joeld0803 on Mar 31, 2014 7:17:36 GMT -5
Fatherchuck,
Mine isn't a trike since I put the CAN AM differential on the back and actually made it a 4 wheeled vehicle. That is the major issue I think. I just know that the recent changes to the VTR 64 form which are for titling a vehicle have added a new statement that changes the approval. The VTR 61 form is for a rebuilt vehicle. I am still questioning the DMV in their decision and trying to get them to at least consider it if it passes a safety inspection. I told them I really didn't really want to retitle it but since it is a 4 wheeled vehicle they are stating that it is no longer a motorcycle which 4 wheels are on some out there as they use training wheels on them and I know that is a special case but to prove the point none the less. I am supposed to get a response back from them today on my request to at least consider it if it passes a safety inspection. I would rather leave it titled at a rebuilt custom motorcycle since it is chain drive and uses a motorcycle engine.
Maybe you had yours titled before 2/14 and the form hadn't been revised yet.
Any pictures? I am not using any part of the original motorcycle frame on mine.
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Post by fatherchuck53 on Mar 31, 2014 16:07:40 GMT -5
Sorry I typed the wrong form number it is as you stated VTR-64. With the 4 wheels I don't see getting around calling it a "4 wheeled vehicle". I believe the voyageur and landing gear kits are just kind of overlooked. The same as adding a sidecar you are suppose to retitle it as is no longer of the original appearance, or when you paint it a different color. Not trying to sound insensitive to your situation but we should be thankful for them overlooking so many technicalities.
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Post by joeld0803 on Jul 10, 2014 12:42:15 GMT -5
Ok so I have tried to title it in Texas and they giving me a bunch of flack about the 4 wheels and saying it can't be titled as an assembled vehicle in Texas due to the new ruling that an assembled vehicle can not consist of different applications such as car part mixed with automotive parts and the fact that it has 4 wheels is just condemning it.
Not sure on laws of other states and really don't feel like redesigning this entire chasis and it is a good driving unit. If anyone is interested in continuing this project let me know.
I have invested almost 12,000 in the build as of this point and would rather cut my loss now than to continue to persue this dream machine.
Any reasonable offer will be considered heavily to part from it. I am starting the asking price on Craigslist at $8000.00.
I have a clear motorcycle title of the bike used and the goose neck with the VIN is welded to the frame.
Just let me know if interested.
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Post by joeld0803 on Jul 10, 2014 12:44:42 GMT -5
I meant car parts mixed with motorcycle parts. This creation has car parts, 4 wheeler parts and motorcycle parts
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Post by edvb on Jul 10, 2014 17:45:04 GMT -5
joeld0803
Sorry to hear your problems. I did my homework when I started my Eco Exo R project. I contacted the DOT Research & Information before starting and got an E-mail stating it would be classified as a type 1 motorcycle. When the trooper who inspected it started to give me some grief I politely said I will print a copy of that E-mail for him if he would like. The tune quickly changed and I passed 100% within 20 minutes.
Being a 4 wheel vehicle I think you are screwed. There is no way in WI it would ever pass. The Trooper made that clear when I asked about the Ariel Atom around the time I was going order my kit. He also said it was up to DOT Research & Information to do the final determination of the type of motorcycle on my Eco Exo R project. By doing the homework beforehand I feel it helped me get mine registered.
I wish you luck but does not sound too promising at this time.
Edward
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Post by henrye on Jul 24, 2014 3:17:29 GMT -5
I dont understand after all that work, just make it into a 3 wheeler. The Campagna Motors V13R front wheel base is 2 inches wider than a corvette, the front width of your creation will not make for a ill handling vehicled if it were changeed to a trike. www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ7wDvwSQE8
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 13:03:28 GMT -5
Cool trike - sorry to hear of your troubles in getting it titled in TX. Did you look into the custom vehicle rules? Some links here: www.dmv.org/tx-texas/custom-built-cars.phpThis build is being featured in the BikeBuilds.net directory here: joeld0803's Bandit TrikeWe're currently displaying only a reduced-size photo (similar to what you'd find in Google Images). We'd like to ask for your permission to publish the original full-size image with your build listing. If anyone would like to have a build of their own listed, just send me a message with a link to the build thread and we'll take care of the rest. Ken
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Post by logotrikes on Jun 1, 2018 7:07:10 GMT -5
joeld0803m
You might want to revisit the lower wishbones, where you've terminated the lower end of the bell-crank pushrods. Ideally they should be mounted as close to the axle upright as possibe. Where you have terminated them halfway down the wishbone, places that junction under severe stress from bending moments. It acts as a cantilever, and your wishbones sooner or later will fail due to bending stresses at that point.
You'll need longer pushrods obviously, but you can calculate the ratio between how much the suspension rises compared with how much the pushrod moves. You really need this to work out suspension movement compared to how much available damper travel you have.
All you need is cosine of pushrod angle at ride height. Say 45 degrees pushrod lean =.71. Therefore at 45 degrees lean of the pushrod, if the suspension rises 1 inch the pushrod moves .71inch. Use this formula for any angle of the pushrod and you can work out suspension movement.This disregards the bell-crank ratio you've chosen, but which also must be factored in. If it's 1:1, nothing changes, but anything else will affect how much the suspension moves compared to the damper movement...I chose 3:2 and from this and the other math I can work out suspension movement vs damper movement..
Honestly though, do consider the above with regard to the wishbone thingy...
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