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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 15:33:37 GMT -5
Hey bud, congrats on the new house purchase. I have been reading your build and i have to say, amazing job on the build. I have been reading a lot about reverse trikes myself, because i have fallen in love with my recumbent trike that i recently converted to electric with a single motor rear hub design and started to think about scaling it up to an motorcycle. I'm on the fence about going electric on something as large as your trike due to the cost of the batteries, so i may just go the sport bike engine route like you did, idk. I look forward to your future updates as i start to plan out my own build. I'm not scrapping the idea of the electric design, because i truly think it has huge potential and could be implemented in the front wheels in a way to make the trike FWD driven. My current bicycle trike design gets about 113 miles on a full charge on my homemade 18650 cell battery i built under normal riding loads. Im really unsure how many batteries i would need to propel a motorcycle size trike a reasonable distance.
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Post by captainamerica on Feb 17, 2017 15:03:22 GMT -5
I am glad you like what I did, always nice to hear that. Honestly I would stick with the electric idea, pack the batteries down low, get the chassis as light as possible. Its actually something I want to do, make an electric version that a paraplegic can drive, just a hand brake and throttle. I think I can get my rolling chassis down in the 500lb range and then add batteries back in with the motor, possibly still chain driven for simplicity. No idea off the top of my head what kind of distance I could get out of something like that but we shall see in the future.
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Post by Liteway on Feb 18, 2017 0:20:58 GMT -5
Good to see a fresh post from you Captain, and catch up on what you are up to.
What is that just behind the radiator? Oil cooler maybe? The camera angle almost makes it look as though something is passing through the center of the radiator.
I just moved too, and the house has a 3 car garage, but I only get to play in a third of it, so I probably have less space than you, though still slightly more than I had.
Incidental question for Dave,
If I were to use the quote for this reply, and the pictures were replicated, would I then double the amount of our allotted data used for the original post?
If so, it would be good if there was a away not to repeat the photos along with text in our replies using the quote of the original post.
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Post by DaveJ98092 on Feb 18, 2017 16:02:35 GMT -5
Good to see a fresh post from you Captain, and catch up on what you are up to. What is that just behind the radiator? Oil cooler maybe? The camera angle almost makes it look as though something is passing through the center of the radiator. I just moved too, and the house has a 3 car garage, but I only get to play in a third of it, so I probably have less space than you, though still slightly more than I had. Incidental question for Dave,
If I were to use the quote for this reply, and the pictures were replicated, would I then double the amount of our allotted data used for the original post?
If so, it would be good if there was a away not to repeat the photos along with text in our replies using the quote of the original post.I too have a 3 car garage, its even a wider version at 750 Ft Sq plus attic space, but I also have a son that does not have a garage so all his stuff is packed in with my stuff. On Forum attachments, I do not think re-posting pictures during a quoting of a post will take up any more room but I am not 100% clear on that. I do not know if there is a way to block pictures when a quoted post is made. I just checked the Admin page and we are at 166 Mb of our total allotment of 200 Mb so we are ok for now. |
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Post by captainamerica on Feb 19, 2017 11:18:15 GMT -5
Liteway,
That is the stock oil cooler, it needs to be secured better, it actually currently vibrates into the radiator fins just a little. I'll put up a better picture when I get a chance.
Andrew
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Post by jim99 on Feb 20, 2017 22:27:45 GMT -5
What's all that white stuff on the ground around your new house? Question, do you wear a helmet when you drive your trike, or better put, are you required to by law in N.C. When I visit the Smoky Mt, I do not wear a helmet and have never been stopped for not wearing one. Maybe just lucky, in that area we bounce in and out of N.C and Tenn. all with in a few miles.
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Post by captainamerica on Feb 21, 2017 7:32:06 GMT -5
Jim,
I know snow in the south right...once a year, just enough to cause every school to close and a rash of accidents to keep all the dealerships selling cars. I do wear a helmet, always, NC has a helmet law that I technically fall under I believe. But I also do not have a windshield and have no desire to take a bee to the face at 80mph. I have hit rocks and dragonflys and stuff of that nature and the impact can be quite jarring. So for now I will continue to wear one.
Andrew
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Post by captainamerica on Feb 28, 2017 12:57:17 GMT -5
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Post by DaveJ98092 on Feb 28, 2017 14:45:13 GMT -5
Black and Orange, Hummmmm. Those are Harley colors dude.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 17:01:13 GMT -5
Hi Nice project, did you draw your gxs 1000cc engine cad model? i am looking for a step igs file format. i need to make it fit in the frame attached. ![]() Attachment Deleted |
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Post by Liteway on Feb 28, 2017 17:42:37 GMT -5
Black and Orange, Hummmmm. Those are Harley colors dude. Go Okla. State! I appreciate the surely unintended salute to my alma mater. Looks good too! Close to color Porsche used on the wheels of race versions of their touring cars, but with more gloss. Your use seems more appropriate. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2017 16:30:39 GMT -5
I was curious if the use of a 1000cc motor seems needed for the setup? i have been shopping for powerplants for my build and im having a hard time finding a decent 1000cc setup without paying a fortune for it or it has super high miles on the engine..
Im finding 600cc sport bike engines around $400-1000 locally easily with ecu and harness..
All the scrap yards want like $2500+ for 1000cc motors...
I was curious how difficult it is to take off with the 1000cc motor to determine if a 600cc motor would be a hassle... friend told me to just get a 600cc from like an R6 and slap a small turbo kit on it and gain the difference in the engines in power + extras....
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Post by skifffz1to3 on May 1, 2017 18:44:44 GMT -5
very nice
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Post by DaveJ98092 on May 1, 2017 20:56:06 GMT -5
I was curious if the use of a 1000cc motor seems needed for the setup? i have been shopping for powerplants for my build and im having a hard time finding a decent 1000cc setup without paying a fortune for it or it has super high miles on the engine.. Im finding 600cc sport bike engines around $400-1000 locally easily with ecu and harness.. All the scrap yards want like $2500+ for 1000cc motors... I was curious how difficult it is to take off with the 1000cc motor to determine if a 600cc motor would be a hassle... friend told me to just get a 600cc from like an R6 and slap a small turbo kit on it and gain the difference in the engines in power + extras.... Liteway is running a 600cc engine right now. He can answer this better than me. But there are a few 400cc trikes around that will not win too many drag races but will sustain 85 MPG all day long if needed. |
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Post by captainamerica on May 3, 2017 12:38:26 GMT -5
May 2017
Apparently I missed a bunch of comments here, I have look at this page quite a few times in the last month with not much to add and somehow everything from the harley-davidson color choice never showed up.
Questions to answer,
Looneycorp: Yes you can have the cad file, there are some instructions in the forum posts here, but basically they boil down to you PMing me your name and location and what your trying to build and why the cad model would be helpful to you. And attach a valid @gmail email account that I can give you access to my google drive folder with. Pretty straight forward stuff.
Funny enough the orange powder coat is actually BO-orange, as the company that did it for me does a bunch of stuff for bojangles restaurant chain and that is apparently their color.
usaveteranrealtor: judging from my experience it would be very easy to get away with a 600cc motor on this trike design, its more then enough power. And nicely enough if you design your engine mounts correctly the bolt spacing between the suzuki motors is the same so as long as you have some lateral adjustability in your system you can upgrade later. The vertical distance is 9.40" (239mm) I believe looking at the motor from the side. I doubt you would need a turbo either, the single rear wheel doesn't have the grip to overcome the weight of the vehicle during hard acceleration with out slipping so more power only helps you at the top end. I went with the 1000 simply because its about the same size and it has 75hp more so why not. I bought both of these as working bikes, a GSXR1000 K5 for 4200 and a K7 for 5500. Not cheap but I use a lot of the bike.
In more important news I have accomplished nothing in the last 2 months worthy of note except cleaning my garage a few times and working on a bolt on rear end that I can swap out with the swing arm when I want a little race car to go auto-cross. And I turned 30 which is highly overrated, I recommend never doing it if possible.
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Post by DaveJ98092 on May 3, 2017 16:36:39 GMT -5
It would be so cool to design a bolt on rear swap. One day its a trike and the other a 4 wheel car. May not be legal for street use if registered as a motorcycle. But for a TRACK DAY.....
Thanks Andrew, NOW my head is spinning gears.
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Post by Liteway on May 3, 2017 16:51:00 GMT -5
It would be so cool to design a bolt on rear swap. One day its a trike and the other a 4 wheel car. May not be legal for street use if registered as a motorcycle. But for a TRACK DAY..... Thanks Andrew, NOW my head is spinning gears. I think it's a good idea too. It's frustrating,the number of venues that don' t allow trikes, not to mention the increased grip would allow you to smoke the compitition instead of your rear tire. Thirty huh. I remember 30, but only barely. |
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Post by DaveJ98092 on May 3, 2017 20:09:57 GMT -5
It would be so cool to design a bolt on rear swap. One day its a trike and the other a 4 wheel car. May not be legal for street use if registered as a motorcycle. But for a TRACK DAY..... Thanks Andrew, NOW my head is spinning gears. I think it's a good idea too. It's frustrating,the number of venues that don' t allow trikes, not to mention the increased grip would allow you to smoke the compitition instead of your rear tire. Thirty huh. I remember 30, but only barely. Yeah I remember 30, was uhh 31 years ago today |
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Post by endeavor on May 3, 2017 21:10:09 GMT -5
Yes it's true as I was going to run one or two of my trike at Bonneville however there is no trike bracket so I would have to run as a sidecar. But on the good side the speed runs were canceled and I decided to abstain.
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Post by mtntech on May 4, 2017 9:28:24 GMT -5
February '16 Finally got the trike put back together after much to do about nothing. Apparently some pedal adjustments I did to the clutch caused it to over actuate and lock itself into an open condition. I dropped the engine and took the clutch apart and found nothing wrong with it, so I put it back together and then spent some time making sure that the max throw of the master cylinder isn't pushing the clutch more open then it needs to (about 1/16"). After all that I put the system back together with some modifications. I bead rolled all the coolant pipes which now seem to be holding pressure versus before were they would all lead slightly. I removed a bunch of crimp on electrical connectors and soldered most of them together with new heat shrink to make everything look a little cleaner, especially the wires up to the upper brake light. Also, new wheels, the orange powder coat my friend at CRC powder coating in Mooresville turned out really good, I was skeptical if the orange was going to be to dark based on the color pallet they had but it is quite bright enough for me.     What are you running for tires? |
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